Holly In Roger's Face

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During the course of the Roger & Holly years, their scenes together covered a wide range of emotion and experience. However, there was one constant that dedicated Roger & Holly aficionados have come to recognize as the "Holly in Roger's Face Syndrome". In any particular scene, usually during a highly-charged moment, Holly would position herself right in Roger's face to make her point. Following are several classic examples of the "Holly in Roger's Face Syndrome".

1993: After being fired by Roger, Holly returns to WSPR to pick up her datebook. Roger and Holly have this discussion in which he defends Gilly, who has taken over Holly's old job.

Roger: Holly, she wants to be successful. I have no problem with her integrity.

Holly: (laughing) Of course not, because YOU don't have any.

Roger: Ta-da!

Holly: I've seen how you operate, you know. A little omission here, a little evasion there. A slight embellishment. All of a sudden you don't recognize the truth anymore because it's so full of holes. It's all become lies. *Holly in Roger's Face: approx. 6 inches* You are contagious Roger, and if she hangs around you long enough, she's going to get infected.

Roger: Gee, well. You better warn her about me.

Holly: Oh, I have. Over and over again.

Roger: That takes care of that. So how about some lunch?

1991: Holly has arrived at Roger's to accuse him of flooding Daniel St. John's apartment. Roger denies it.

Roger: See, I don't waste time hating people who pull off good business deals.

Holly: Even at your expense?

Roger: Even at my expense.

Holly: I don't believe you. You hate Billy Lewis. You hate Alexandra.

Roger: Ah, you see, that was personal. They humiliated me in public. I hope there is a special corner in hell reserved just for them.

*Holly in Roger's Face: approx. 3 inches*

Holly: I kind of doubt you're going to wait until the hereafter. When you hate somebody, you go after them here and now.

Roger (steps away from her): Hey, why don't you just beat it?

The Bridge Incident, 1989:
Holly and Roger are walking along the river discussing a recent argument they've had.

Roger: You're never going to be happy until you can come to grips with your feelings about me.

Holly: My feelings are my own. You let ME deal with them!

Roger: Well, I sure hope you can because they're damaging you.

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[*Holly in Roger's Face: approx. 6 inches*]

Holly: This has nothing to do with me. Everything to do with you. What you did was horrible and you have to live with it. But you can't so you want me to forgive you. Well, I won't. So you're the one who has to deal with his feelings. (She steps away from him).

Roger: See, you're running away again!

The Hero Party, 1993:
After their time together at the Cliff House, Roger finds Holly at the Country Club.

Holly: Roger, you have made so much more of yourself alone than you ever would have with me. And now suddenly your future depends on having me back?

Roger: You let me taste it again, Holly. You showed me you wanted to.

*Holly in Roger's Face: approx. 2 inches*

Holly: No, don't.

Roger: Yes, yes! (She steps away from him). Holly, it's not me that you can't live with. You know what it is? It is the shame that crept in after we made love. That's what it is. After you reverted back to what you like to think of as Holly Norris Bauer Thorpe Lindsay again. The shame of loving someone that you're supposed to find despicable. And that's why you run to Ed.

1994: Holly has caught Roger in Ross's offices going through his files to get information on Spaulding Enterprises. She is upset and threatens to leave.

Roger: Please don't do this! We have fought so hard!

Holly: I thought that all I had to do was stop fighting you on the little things and all the bigger things were going to take care of themselves. *Holly in Roger's Face: approx. 7 inches* I thought that just by being together it would somehow magically make you start thinking differently.

Roger: But it has! Don't you know that? There are things I wouldn't even consider doing now that I have you!

Holly: This is one of those things you shouldn't do!

1990: Roger and Holly are in an Acapulco hotel room where they have come as part of Alexandra and Holly's scheme to trap Roger:

Holly: Anyway, one morning I woke up and all this weight that had been on my heart for so long just disappeared. I just ... I realized I couldn't hate you anymore.

Roger: Is this true? If you knew how many years I have despaired of ever hearing this.

Holly: I know despair.

Roger: How many days and nights I have prayed for you to stop hating me. Prayed for you somehow to forgive me. But I knew that your hate was so deep and so pure that nothing could change it. And why should it? I didn't deserve that. So finally I gave up hoping. I mean I gave up ... wanting you to change.

Holly: That hate was all I had. It kept me going. If I could hate you I didn't have to feel the pain. *Holly in Roger's Face: approx. 3 inches* You said you stopped wanting me to change. Did you ever stop wanting me?

Roger: You? No. Never.

1992: Holly has come to Roger's apartment to talk about forming a business partnership. They discuss his current relationship with Jenna.

Holly: Roger, come on. She's a hustler! That's not what you need.

Roger: Really.

Holly: Look, I'm not blind to her obvious assets. I'm sure she's extremely entertaining. But she's hardly respectable and don't say that's not important to you.

Roger: It used to be.

Holly: Well, if you want to build this empire, it still should be.

Roger: What makes you so sure?

*Holly in Roger's Face: approx. 5 inches*

Holly: Because I know what makes you tick, God help me. I always have. Respectability is one of my greatest assets. (They both laugh) Well, a little tarnished right now maybe. People forget these things!

1993: In order to prevent Holly from marrying the psychotic Dr. Daniel St. John, Roger barges into her office at WSPR and proposes.

Roger: Holly, our pasts are suffocating us. Haven't we wasted enough time? Aren't you as tired of the games as I am? Tired of living our lives as if we're doing just fine when we sure as hell are not? Holly, Holly ... we can start over. We can make it work this time.

Holly: Roger ...

Roger: Holly, I love you so much. I can make you happy. Please, please say that you'll marry me.

Holly: I ...

Roger: Daniel doesn't deserve you and you don't love him.

Holly: THAT'S what this sudden proposal is all about!

Roger: What?

*Holly in Roger's Face: approx. 4 inches*

Holly: You just want me because somebody else does.

Roger: That's not true.

Holly: This is another of your bizarre schemes to make me suffer. Well, I'm not going to play it. I'm going to marry Daniel St. John.

Roger: Holly, you're not listening to me. I love you.

*Holly in Roger's Face: approx. 6 inches*

Holly: I hate you!

Roger: No you don't. You're living in the past. Stop living in the past and stop listening to people like Ed and Ross and start listening to your heart.

1993: Roger has come to Holly's house to discuss his latest problems with his son Hart. She tells him that she invited him over to find out if he was alright.

Roger: You wanted to know if I was alright.

Holly: I still do.

Roger: That poses a very interesting philosophical question, Holly.

Holly: Not really.

Roger: Am I alright compared to what?

Holly: Have you been drinking?

Roger: Why?

Holly: You're in your Kierkegaard mode. That doesn't happen til you've had a few.

Roger: I've had exactly one Scotch. (He is still standing in the doorway).

Holly: You going to stand there all night?

Roger: Another poser.

Holly: Yes or no. In or out.

Roger: You think you have the upper hand, isn't that it? I mean, that's why you summoned me out of the blue.

Holly: I didn't summon you.

Roger: Holly's back on top. On a roll. Queen of the Hill, boys and girls. Taking names. Making a list of who's naughty and nice.

Holly: Well, this is a different mood. I don't remember this one. Is it new?

Roger: What do you really want, Holly?

Holly: My turn for philosophy? What does Holly really want. *Holly in Roger's Face: approx. 4 inches* Well, contrary to what you may think, I only enjoy kicking you when you're upright and gloating. When you're down and out, I don't get much pleasure out of it.